Ask the Man Who Owns One

That was Packard’s slogan for years.  It showed that Packard had enough confidence in its products to let their customers do the talking.  No electric car companies use this or any similar slogans.  Electric car companies must stick to perpetuating myths, disseminating misinformation, and at best, promoting half-truths.  Why?  Because the last thing electric car companies want prospective customers to do is “Ask the man who owns one”, and since actions speak louder than words, they certainly don’t want anyone looking at what electric vehicle owners are actually doing -

source: The Daily Caller

Record Numbers Of Drivers Trading In Electric Cars For SUVs

President Barack Obama promised to put a million more hybrid and electric cars on the road during his tenure, but new research shows drivers are trading them in to buy sports utility vehicles (SUVs).
The auto-research group found that “22 percent of people who have traded in their hybrids and [electric vehicles] in 2015 bought a new SUV.”
This number is higher than the 18.8 percent that did the same last year, but it’s double the number that traded in their electric car for an SUV just three years ago. reports that only “45 percent of this year’s hybrid and EV trade-ins have gone toward the purchase of another alternative fuel vehicle, down from just over 60 percent in 2012.”
“Never before have loyalty rates for alt-fuel vehicles fallen below 50 percent,” Edmunds notes.
Read more.  Go ahead, it’s worth it this time.

Just as I predicted, unsatisfied owners of electric cars will be one of the main reasons that they will never, never even come close to replacing gas powered vehicles.  Over half of electric car buyers aren’t going to make the same mistake twice, and mark my words, that percentage is sure to increase as time goes by.

Electric car owners can be divided into two groups - those who have learned from their own mistakes and those who are incapable of learning, but anyone with any amount of logic and reasoning ability should be able to avoid falling into the electric vehicle trap.  If you’ve ever been tempted to even consider purchasing an electric vehicle consider the following:

  • Ask the owner of a diesel powered vehicle, what is the biggest disadvantage of owning a diesel.  Chances are, they will mention the lack of places to refuel.  Multiply this problem by about ten billion, and you will begin to understand how inconvenient owing and electric car would be.
  • Flashlights - We all own about ten of them and none of them work.  Why?  Because they are battery powered.  A traditional flashlight isn’t so bad.  All you have to do is pop in a couple of new batteries and you’re good to go.  A rechargeable flashlight is much worse.  Of course, the battery on that will be dead too, but it’s gonna be several hours before it’s charged up enough to see in the dark.  Why do you need a flashlight anyway?  ‘Cause the power’s out?  Good luck recharging that flashlight.  It will either be morning or the power will be back on, before it can produce any light.
  • Batteries are a great source of intermittent power, but a terrible source of continuous power.  Compare how much longer gas powered tools like weed wackers, hedge trimmers, and chainsaws run on one tank of fuel than battery powered ones do on a single charge.  It isn’t even close and the gas powered tools have much, much more power, so you can get the job done more quickly.
  • Take a brand new, top of the line, lithium-ion powered drill, with a brand new half inch bit, and see how many holes you can drill in half inch steel.  It’s almost amazing how little you can do before the battery goes dead and it takes hours to recharge it.
  • Look at your cell phone.  The battery is almost as big as the phone itself.  A phone is electronic, with no mechanical moving parts, and can barely get you through a day on a charge. A car on the other hand, does have mechanical moving parts and often, also requires lights, heat, air conditioning, or windshield wipers to be run.  The battery of an electric car has much more demand placed upon it than the battery of a cell phone, even though an electric car’s battery is much smaller than a cell phone’s battery, relative to each of their sizes.  Your cell phone takes a long time to recharge.   An electric car takes much longer.
  • The salespeople and sales literature of your flashlight, power tools, and cell phones claimed that the batteries would last much longer than they do in real life, didn’t they?  It’s the same way with electric cars and they all take a long time to recharge.
  • Where I work we have both electric and gas powered forklifts.  A forklift is probably the most practical electric powered vehicle there is, but often, at the end of the day, one of our forklifts may run out of fuel.  No problem with the gas powered units.  You just swap out the propane tank.  The electric units however, become useless immobile hunks of iron for several hours while they recharge.

Remember your own experiences and the things you have witnessed, and you will determine for yourself that purchasing an electric powered car is a mistake without actually buying one, or you could just simply - ask the man who owned one.


  1. And yet, I drive a Prius and like it. But that is really more of an electrically assisted gas engine vehicle.

    While I CAN get the mileage they claim, I really only get about 48 MPG out of it. It doesn't replace my 2500 with a diesel engine to pull a trailer and haul stuff and carry 1K lbs of tools, but it is nice for hauling 2 or 4 people for a day trip.

    There is a place for both kids, but I'd never own a Battery powered car as they are sold today.

    1. Don't anyone confuse the Prius (a hybrid) with a battery only powered vehicle. The Prius has proven itself. (I must admit, I was wrong about the Prius when they first came out. I thought that they were going to be too complex to be reliable.) The Prius is an excellent car when used in the environment for which it was intended, and it keeps proving itself everyday. Battery only powered cars are also proving themselves everyday, but in a different way. They're proving themselves to be totally impractical and not up to the task of replacing gas powered vehicles.

    2. My problem isn't with the Prius so much as with the Prius driver. He's generally the one in front of me, climbing the hill, in the fast lane, five miles an hour under the speed limit.

    3. Yes, but of course,those drivers would exist even if the Prius never existed, they'd just be driving different cars. I don't like Priuses (Priui?) is that they are ugly, and they cant make the sweet music of a V8 with duals and glasspacks.

  2. All that is 100% spot on. Hell, even the initial premise is based on a brain fart of biblical proportions: you can produce pollution from the motor right under the hood with a combustion engine - or back at the power generating station with the electric car. How this escaped the attention of the President of the United States, legions of supposed 'climate scientists', and the union slobs and execs of the car companies - is beyond me. You would think that even with their double digit IQ's that somebody would have seen that!


    To scuttle the project might be throwing the baby out with the bath water. A couple of considerations:

    - the first internal combustion engines had the same problems: they were underpowered, inefficient, used dangerous fuels, and worst of all - they scared the shit out of the horses

    - Electrical storage technologies are one of the most exciting branches of science and tech today. Batteries are getting ever more efficient, lighter in are the motors that run off them. Those quadcopter drones would not be possible with combustion engines.

    - even though the Tesla is undoubtedly a failure by our standards - if you look at previous attempts, that thing has made huge progress.

    I liken this to your home/car stereo experiment: the potential to learn other useful things is certainly there. Go back to the drawing board and start over! That is what great Americans do and I admire them for it.

    1. Let's assume that they can come up with a battery for an electric vehicle that is twice as good in every area as anything available today. It still wouldn't even come close to making a battery powered car as good as a gas powered one. Now, let's assume that they could come up with a battery that was four times as good. The gas powered car would still be better able to deliver what people are used to expecting from an automobile.

      Never mind batteries for a moment. With traditional gas powered cars, one car will be heavily favored by consumers if it is just a little better, a little faster, a little more efficient, a little more powerful, or a little more stylish than competing models. Very small differences make huge differences in the sales race.

      Mark my words, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, BATTERY POWERED CARS WILL NEVER OUTPERFORM GAS POWERED CARS in all the areas that are important to consumers. Even if battery powered cars got close to gas powered cars at delivering what consumers want, that won't be enough. An AMC Gremlin was CLOSE to a Datsun B210 in every area, but it wasn't BETTER in any. Nissan (Datsun) is still alive and well today. AMC is long gone. The Pacer sold well when it first came out, then, consumers found out first hand all of the Pacer's shortcomings and AMC faded into history. The same will be true for all the electric car companies.

      There have already been enough electric vehicles out there (forklifts and such) to spur battery development. So far, not much has happened. Don't expect much in the near future either. There will be some improvements, but nowhere near enough to have battery powered cars replace gas. Remember, in order for anything like that happen batteries must improve in almost every area (range, recharge time., etc) by a factor of four, and STILL COME DOWN IN PRICE BY 50%.

      Finally batteries are terrible for producing heat, AND batteries lose up to 70% of their effectiveness in very cold weather. (They don't do so good in very hot weather either.) You can bet your bottom dollar on it - Electric cars replacing gas, it's never going to happen.

      Oh yeah! I almost forgot the most important thing. Electric cars can't make the pipes bark! Nothing sounds better than a V8 with a well tuned exhaust system. I wouldn't give that up even if electric cars were better!